Simi Valley police identify man and the neighbor he shot before killing himself

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A medical examiner’s van leaves the scene Tuesday of a murder-suicide in the 3300 block of Billie Court in Simi Valley.

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TROY HARVEY/THE STAR A medical examiner’s van leaves the scene Tuesday of a murder-suicide in the 3300 block of Billie Court in Simi Valley.

Simi Valley police on Wednesday identified the man and the longtime neighbor he shot before killing himself, but said they still don’t know why he did it.

James Richard Wahe, 59, shot and killed neighbor Pamela McClain, 61, before killing himself Tuesday morning, police said.

The two had been neighbors for nearly 20 years, records show. But police said they were not aware of any prior conflict between the two, or of anything Tuesday that might have sparked the killings. Searches of their homes uncovered evidence but did not reveal Wahe’s motive, police said.

“By all appearances, it was a murder-suicide, with the female being the victim and the male being the suspect,” Simi Valley police Cmdr. David Livingstone said.

The woman’s body was found about 7 a.m. Tuesday in front of a neighbor’s house in the 3300 block of Billie Court, police said. The man’s body was found outside his home on the same cul-de-sac.

Livingstone said a large-caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. The gun was legally registered, but authorities would not say to whom.

Livingstone said the two were next-door neighbors who knew each other but had no relationship.

Cmdr. Anthony Anzilotti said police had previously responded to several calls for service at the man’s address. He would not elaborate, citing the ongoing investigation.

Those calls could help investigators establish a possible motive and if the two neighbors had problems in the past, Livingstone said. He said no suicide note was found.

A neighbor looked out a window after waking up Tuesday and saw a person on the ground, police said. The neighbor thought the person was injured and called authorities. Authorities received no calls about shots fired before that, Livingstone said.

The two were declared dead at the scene.

Shortly after the bodies were found, police said the incident appeared to be isolated, and they were not looking for any suspects. Investigators believe the shooting occurred Tuesday morning, and the two died where they were found, Livingstone said.

Autopsies revealed the man died of a gunshot wound to the head and the woman died of multiple gunshot wounds, said Craig Stevens, senior deputy Ventura County medical examiner.

Wahe had owned his Billie Court home since at least 1994 and McClain since at least 1984, public records show.

Mailboxes line the small cul-de-sac. A basketball net sat next to the road, and holiday trimmings already decorated a few homes.

On Wednesday, a candle and flowers had been placed on a sidewalk where the victim apparently was killed.

Vehicles drove in and out of the driveway of the nearby home where she lived.

A man outside declined to talk to a reporter. He held two bundles of sage in one of his hands as he pointed out the small memorial. A woman walked up to him and gave him a hug.

Anyone with information about the deaths should call Simi Valley police at 583-6969 or Ventura County Crime Stoppers anonymously at 800-222-8477.

Staff writer Cheri Carlson contributed to this report.

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HearMeOut-Thanks writes:

Sad tale for sure. Blessings are with both families and friends of the persons who died.

cassandra9 writes:

While the motive is unknown, the means is not.

Another victim of our crazed gun laws.

Please don't tell me the victim should have been packing too in her own ultra safe neighborhood.

Dawn43 writes:

Take a hike, Cassandra...

catmom writes:

in response to Dawn43:

Take a hike, Cassandra...

Yes, take a hike.

Guess we should start registering steak knives also.

Condolences to families and friends. Very sad story.

luv2sail#205257 writes:

in response to cassandra9:

While the motive is unknown, the means is not.

Another victim of our crazed gun laws.

Please don't tell me the victim should have been packing too in her own ultra safe neighborhood.

C2-9,

Not every article is a reason for you to spout your disdain for others owning guns, of course this does not include yourself. You seem to like the idea of owning a weapon. Guessing you own your gun because of "the crazed gun laws."
In this instance anything, including hands could have been used.
Rather than spout your nonsense, either leave condolences to the Family or don't comment at all.
I'm certain there will be another incident where you will be able to comment.

A_Guys_Opinion writes:

in response to cassandra9:

While the motive is unknown, the means is not.

Another victim of our crazed gun laws.

Please don't tell me the victim should have been packing too in her own ultra safe neighborhood.

Firearms have nothing to do with this. A mad man can kill with any variety of objects.

Firearm ownership is a hallmark of a free society.

The victim should be mourned, the murderer should be condemned and that's where the focus lies, not the instrument in which the mad man used to slay his victim.

Mina writes:

If this had happened in Oxnard the right wing would be all over it blaming gangs, "illegals" and the community.

They'll blame anyone but the guy who thought a gun would solve his problems.

BigZ writes:

Barking dog?

FormerNPer writes:

in response to A_Guys_Opinion:

Firearms have nothing to do with this. A mad man can kill with any variety of objects.

Firearm ownership is a hallmark of a free society.

The victim should be mourned, the murderer should be condemned and that's where the focus lies, not the instrument in which the mad man used to slay his victim.

Excellent response to the typical C9 nonsense. The funny part is she owns a gun. So inquiring minds wish to know Cass, if someone broke into your home and came after you, would you use your gun?

Hopper writes:

in response to Mina:

If this had happened in Oxnard the right wing would be all over it blaming gangs, "illegals" and the community.

They'll blame anyone but the guy who thought a gun would solve his problems.

No, it would have been the illegal gangbanger, drug dealing pimps of oxanard. Please get it correct next time...

marco5150#727120 writes:

in response to A_Guys_Opinion:

Firearms have nothing to do with this. A mad man can kill with any variety of objects.

Firearm ownership is a hallmark of a free society.

The victim should be mourned, the murderer should be condemned and that's where the focus lies, not the instrument in which the mad man used to slay his victim.

AGO, you said it perfectly. And I believe the article also said the weapon was legally owned....

cassandra9 writes:

Sure a guy could beat her to death in the middle of the street in broad daylight and with lots of means of escape. Sure he could. Or use a knife if he were expert enough to find a fatal place or--well rationalizations go on but the reality is firearms are quick, more certainly lethal, and require no great degree of risk to the killer, sane or otherwise.

From David Waldman who collects the crazy things crazy gun people do that end up in not very funny occurrences.

"Another wild week, including a lot of stories that come close to, but might not exactly be GunFAILs. Like the story from Chickamauga, GA, where a man who thought he was shooting at a home intruder killed a wandering, 72-year-old Alzheimer's patient. Or the story from Nashville, TN, where "outlaw country" singer Wayne Mills was shot and killed in a bar fight. (By the way, is "outlaw country" like "gangsta rap?" Are we supposed to be outraged by it? Or is it just good ol' All-American fun?)
By the numbers, the week was heavy on the hunting accidents (10 confirmed, plus one more strongly suspected), and on child victims. Nineteen kids were accidentally shot last week, ages 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 11, 13, 14, 14, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17 and 17. I think the numbers are up and skewing older, because several of them are hunting-related. On the subject of hunting accidents, do please note that six hunters were accidentally shot during opening weekend of the season in the state of Wisconsin, alone.

Just two loaded gun-cleaning accidents this week, three home invasion shootings, and three waistband/pocket ninjas who accidentally shot themselves. Cop numbers are, mercifully, down to just one this week.

Rather than recap this week's more outlandish stories, I'll just point you to the listings from Asheboro, NC, Flowood, MS, and Anderson County, TN.

On the guns in school front this week, maybe numbers are slowing down? Guns were found in schools in Springfield, MO, Charlotte, NC, Norfolk, VA and Reading, PA."

He also mentioned 34 guns confiscated by TSA this last week. Just one week's worth.

cassandra9 writes:

I do need to point out to you NRA enthusiasts how utterly inane your rationalizations are and how horribly large and predictable the carnage from your fanatical devotion to keeping even the most obvious and sensible limits on guns from enactment or enforcement.

Maybe because I used to do psych evals--when I see crazy I say crazy. And our treatment of guns in this country is crazy.

rickmcgrathart#788945 writes:

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people". No, people with guns kill people (including themselves) and they do it much more easily than with any other weapon.

FormerNPer writes:

in response to cassandra9:

I do need to point out to you NRA enthusiasts how utterly inane your rationalizations are and how horribly large and predictable the carnage from your fanatical devotion to keeping even the most obvious and sensible limits on guns from enactment or enforcement.

Maybe because I used to do psych evals--when I see crazy I say crazy. And our treatment of guns in this country is crazy.

We have the right to own guns, until the Constitution is amended that privilege will remain. The fact people believe in our Rights and are willing to fight for them is why you can come here and call people you don't know "crazy."

You stating you can do a psych eval on people because of their "newspaper blog" views of the Second Amendment is pretty much the definition of "crazy." Coming here and evaluating someone based on information they choose to type, makeup, or just outright troll with, is the definition of malpractice. Something you should consider.

After all your analysis, and talk of the gun crazies, you, yourself own a gun. Why? You have never once explained that.

Frankly you should turn it in, or STFU.

FactsMatter writes:

in response to FormerNPer:

We have the right to own guns, until the Constitution is amended that privilege will remain. The fact people believe in our Rights and are willing to fight for them is why you can come here and call people you don't know "crazy."

You stating you can do a psych eval on people because of their "newspaper blog" views of the Second Amendment is pretty much the definition of "crazy." Coming here and evaluating someone based on information they choose to type, makeup, or just outright troll with, is the definition of malpractice. Something you should consider.

After all your analysis, and talk of the gun crazies, you, yourself own a gun. Why? You have never once explained that.

Frankly you should turn it in, or STFU.

I have suggested removal on this VULGAR post for the use of the last abbreviation. All intelligent people KNOW what it stands for. We will see if the Star moderator is fair or biased and unable to read the TOS.

FactsMatter writes:

in response to FormerNPer:

We have the right to own guns, until the Constitution is amended that privilege will remain. The fact people believe in our Rights and are willing to fight for them is why you can come here and call people you don't know "crazy."

You stating you can do a psych eval on people because of their "newspaper blog" views of the Second Amendment is pretty much the definition of "crazy." Coming here and evaluating someone based on information they choose to type, makeup, or just outright troll with, is the definition of malpractice. Something you should consider.

After all your analysis, and talk of the gun crazies, you, yourself own a gun. Why? You have never once explained that.

Frankly you should turn it in, or STFU.

Some gun nuts are so crazy it is downright obvious. I talked to one last weekend who believed in keeping guns so he could protect himself, not from criminals breaking into his home, but rather from the police and US soldiers. He told me the constitution gave him that right . He was also worried about drones overhead spying on him.

Classic teabagger.

Mina writes:

in response to A_Guys_Opinion:

Firearms have nothing to do with this. A mad man can kill with any variety of objects.

Firearm ownership is a hallmark of a free society.

The victim should be mourned, the murderer should be condemned and that's where the focus lies, not the instrument in which the mad man used to slay his victim.

Enabler.

FormerNPer writes:

in response to FactsMatter:

Some gun nuts are so crazy it is downright obvious. I talked to one last weekend who believed in keeping guns so he could protect himself, not from criminals breaking into his home, but rather from the police and US soldiers. He told me the constitution gave him that right . He was also worried about drones overhead spying on him.

Classic teabagger.

LOL, another run in with someone that proves your point? Yeah, I believe it.

Now we have the "Racist Teabaggers" at Carl's Jr. Someone else at another breakfast spot, which right off hand I can't recall and am too lazy to look up and now the gun enthusiast who wants to go after our police and soldiers.

Ever hear the story about the little boy who cried wolf?

FormerNPer writes:

in response to Mina:

Enabler.

Extremist.

FactsMatter writes:

in response to FormerNPer:

LOL, another run in with someone that proves your point? Yeah, I believe it.

Now we have the "Racist Teabaggers" at Carl's Jr. Someone else at another breakfast spot, which right off hand I can't recall and am too lazy to look up and now the gun enthusiast who wants to go after our police and soldiers.

Ever hear the story about the little boy who cried wolf?

Ever hear the word FACT? You appear to have the same problems comprehending that as you do the word hypocrite.

FormerNPer writes:

in response to FactsMatter:

Ever hear the word FACT? You appear to have the same problems comprehending that as you do the word hypocrite.

A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven.

Given your "stories" are not verifiable, and more than likely made up, they fall far from being FACT. Of the 60,000 people living in Camarillo, there are a very small percentage of true TEA Party members. The odds you ran into them, speaking of their political affiliation and views, in a negative manner as to prove YOUR ideas legitimate is less than .0001%.

Here are some "facts" for you. I verified that your posting is really just demeaning, degrading and non-informational. When I post, I put links to my information, for the most part, but I admit, not always. If someone comes at me with a derisive attitude, I will happily give it back. I never claimed to be perfect, but I sure am not the sad, angry, one-dimensional poster that you are.

FACT.

FactsMatter writes:

in response to FormerNPer:

A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven.

Given your "stories" are not verifiable, and more than likely made up, they fall far from being FACT. Of the 60,000 people living in Camarillo, there are a very small percentage of true TEA Party members. The odds you ran into them, speaking of their political affiliation and views, in a negative manner as to prove YOUR ideas legitimate is less than .0001%.

Here are some "facts" for you. I verified that your posting is really just demeaning, degrading and non-informational. When I post, I put links to my information, for the most part, but I admit, not always. If someone comes at me with a derisive attitude, I will happily give it back. I never claimed to be perfect, but I sure am not the sad, angry, one-dimensional poster that you are.

FACT.

Intelligent people realize there is something called a car and thus one is not restricted to staying in Camarillo. Intelligent people realize right wing kooks exist in every locale in the state of California.

FormerNPer writes:

in response to FactsMatter:

Intelligent people realize there is something called a car and thus one is not restricted to staying in Camarillo. Intelligent people realize right wing kooks exist in every locale in the state of California.

Intelligent folks know a liar when they hear "convenient" stories that support said persons warped view of the world.

I spend countless hours on the "street" and interacting with people. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has brought up politics in conversation, and those times usually were during an election cycle.

I know when someone is trying to con me, this isn't my first rodeo.

FactsMatter writes:

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FormerNPer writes:

in response to FactsMatter:

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Dude your reality is way out there. I don't know where you get the idea people walk around all day long spouting Political rhetoric. Because, I assure you, as someone who is out in public on a regular basis, they do not.

The difference between you and I, is you ASSUME anyone making any conversation you deem unacceptable (real or made up) must be part of the TEA Party or a Conservative, since you dislike them both. You know what they say when you "assume."

Just as an FYI, some of the most Socially Conservative (anti-gay, racist) folks I come across are died in the wool Liberal voters. Pull up a chair and have a nice political discussion with an older African American male. He'll blow your socks off with his "TEA Party" beliefs and then tell you he voted for Obama. Not everything is always as you want it to appear. In fact, when it comes down to it, you are one of the most judgmental people on these boards. Way to go you Tolerant Liberal!

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