Average pay in Ventura County rises to nearly $50,000 annually

Ventura County ranked 11th among California counties with the highest average pay per job in 2010, according to new estimates released Wednesday by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

The average annual pay per job in Ventura County was $49,968, up 2.15 percent from 2009.

The modest uptick was no surprise to Mark Schniepp, director of The California Economic Forecast in Santa Barbara. He thinks local layoffs between 2008 and 2010 eliminated lower-paid workers, leaving behind those with higher salaries and pushing the average up.

Statewide, the average pay per job in 2010 was $54,399. Santa Clara County had the highest average pay in California at $90,208.

Ventura County has large agricultural and tourism sectors that tend to pay lower wages, Schniepp said, and they dilute the county's average, dragging it under the state's.

Average earnings per job take into consideration all wages and salaries of those who earn income from jobs in the county, not those who commute to work in other counties.

The bureau considers Ventura County a large county — one with a population of at least 250,000. Large counties represent 8 percent of the 3,113 counties in the U.S. but account for 68 percent of personal income for the nation.

Per capita income, or income from all sources, in large counties during 2010 ranged from a low of $20,946 in Hidalgo, Texas, to a high of $111,386 in New York.

In 2010 in Ventura County, per capita income was $44,653, up from $43,881 in 2009.

Three California counties had the highest per capita personal incomes in the Far West region of Alaska, California, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon and Washington: Marin, $82,936; San Francisco, $70,190; and San Mateo, $67,964.

Consumer confidence appears to be showing modest signs of improvement as personal income rises. Confidence was virtually unchanged from March to April, according to The Conference Board, a private research group based in New York.

"Consumers are more upbeat about the state of the economy, but they remain cautiously optimistic," said the board's director, Lynn Franco.

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bubbabubba writes:

The true question is how many were employed to account for this average. Fewer workers earning higher dollars would increase the average.

Lets_Be_Truthful writes:

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Why yes, yes you are making it up lol. The so called 99% seem to share that same view of making too much money.

auret1#232805 writes:

The Census Bureau reports the average monthly earnings of state and local government employees for the month of March. The report for 2009 on the largest counties showed Ventura County government employees averaged $6,430 per month or $77,158 per year which is about $27,000 more than the $49,968 earned by the average employee in Ventura County.

Santa Clara County government employees averaged $7,179 per month or $86,151 per year which is about $4,500 less than the $90,208 earned by the average employee in Santa Clara County.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stata...

virgil414 writes:

in response to auret1#232805:

The Census Bureau reports the average monthly earnings of state and local government employees for the month of March. The report for 2009 on the largest counties showed Ventura County government employees averaged $6,430 per month or $77,158 per year which is about $27,000 more than the $49,968 earned by the average employee in Ventura County.

Santa Clara County government employees averaged $7,179 per month or $86,151 per year which is about $4,500 less than the $90,208 earned by the average employee in Santa Clara County.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stata...

Part of he reason for the higher government average is that there are very few minimum wage jobs in public sector such as agriculture, food service, and retail workers. Although I'm sure there are a lot of people who think ALL government employees should be paid minimum wage.

ceeyh805 writes:

in response to auret1#232805:

The Census Bureau reports the average monthly earnings of state and local government employees for the month of March. The report for 2009 on the largest counties showed Ventura County government employees averaged $6,430 per month or $77,158 per year which is about $27,000 more than the $49,968 earned by the average employee in Ventura County.

Santa Clara County government employees averaged $7,179 per month or $86,151 per year which is about $4,500 less than the $90,208 earned by the average employee in Santa Clara County.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stata...

Please - Do not confuse the big government Lefty's in the room, their already confused enough. Half the posters in here probably either work for or milk contracts outta Oxnard, Ventura the County or the Military bases anyway. So you'd be wasting your time, but after we get through State bankruptcy than we can get on with sweeping the deadwood outta the shed.

Oceans12 writes:

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And you probably side with the fools who want everyone to be equal...redistribute wealth so everyone has $$$. I worked hard for mine, let those lazy ones get off their duffs and get a job. For those who really cannot work, I will continue to subsidize their existence as Americans have over the decades. Enuf said! And, I am not a right winger.

viking2265 writes:

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What does home schooling have to do with the story bob? All 3 of my boys were home schooled and have all graduated from college. My middle son also played in the NFL, got his masters and teaching credentials after he was done playing, teaches in a middle school, coaches a HS football team, and runs a Crossfit gym. Any other ignorant comments about home schooled kids bob?

panamajack writes:

Lovely on one side we have the $100,000 a year government worker buying $2 strawberrys from the illegals who picked them for $30 a day. On the other side we have the minimum wage earner worker at Wood Ranch BBQ serving the $100,000 a year government worker. Yes I can see where at least the high salary workers are helping support the rest of us! Maybe in the near future there will be a squatters camp permanently parked in all the fine establishments so the greed...I mean the higher salary workers can help subsidize the hungry. Ventura county will be the future model for California for desparity!!!

santarosa writes:

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Perhaps this speaks more to your ability to interview and hire people. If these home schooled employees were so stupid and maladjusted then why did you hire them in the first place?

Increasingly elite universities are seeking out home schoolers to fill their freshman classes because these kids are well educated, self-motivated, and independent thinkers:

http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/ma...

A ten year old home schooler would easily spot the fact that you are simply parroting the party line on excessive public sector pay and benefits: "they make so much more that the median county pay because they are highly educated professionals". The home schooler would then ask you to explain why these highly valued professionals retire 10-20 years earlier than their private sector counterparts? Why are white collar employees of the city, county, or state eligible for retirement at age 55?

JohnInSimi writes:

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viking2265 writes:

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Hey bob, until you educate yourself about home schooling, maybe you should put a cork in it. The last thing home schooling parents do is let their kids sit in front of a TV watching anything..let alone FOX. Their time is involved with teaching.
My kids are NOT the exception...if you did your homework you would know that. Throwing out lies about how you have had experience with "dozens and dozens" of home schooled people just shows how you exaggerate your position and spout the party line....even if it's a lie.

cassandra2 writes:

in response to Oceans12:

And you probably side with the fools who want everyone to be equal...redistribute wealth so everyone has $$$. I worked hard for mine, let those lazy ones get off their duffs and get a job. For those who really cannot work, I will continue to subsidize their existence as Americans have over the decades. Enuf said! And, I am not a right winger.

Sigh, there you go again. Want everyone to be equal? Hardly.

Grave inequality in wealth leads to a poor economy and a lot of bad things. I'm not making this up. Ask economists. No, not the doofus columnist in this "paper" but real ones.

Wanting to shave a little of this off is wanting to make everyone equal?

You may not be a right winger but you are showing one of the symptoms, namely an inability to make even gross distinctions.

This or that. Buddha would weep.

Huskerfan writes:

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AdamVant writes:

"The average annual pay per job in Ventura County was $49,968, up 2.15 percent from 2009."

Don't make more money, people! The Obama Bolsheviks will just take it from you! Don't succeed, don't improve yourself, don't take risks, and whatever you do, don't make more money!

rebel123 writes:

What I get from this article is that statistics don't really tell the whole story. The fact that is it speaking to "average" salary says nothing about the true state of jobs and pay in the county. If you have one foot in a bucket of ice and the other on hot coals, on "average" you're pretty comfy. This statistic tells me there are a lot of high incomes and a lot of low incomes, which average out to this figure, and as it is pointed out, massive layoffs eliminated the low end salaries, not the high which brings the average salary up. With all the jobs lost in the schools, in the county govt, how many were six figure bureaucrats? None. That likely follows across the board. Factually, the cost of living in Ventura Co. is so high that fifty grand a year doesn't give you much left over. It takes a month of work at minimum wage to afford a two bedroom apartment.

So you guys can all continue to spew your vitriol, demean each other and spout your partisan screeds. That changes nothing. Wages are not rising in spite of the fact that corporate profits are at a 50 year record high. Make of that what you will.

Lets_Be_Truthful writes:

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Not to mention they are mostly Liberals & Democrats too.

IsthisAmerica writes:

Maybe if you are a Doctor? When I moved here back in the late 80's I took a pay cut. I worked in the Medical Field. Where are these jobs and who is working them?

It must Police and Fire Workers because everyone I know does not make over 30,000. a year?

Maybe if you live in Santa Barbara hey star free do you have your cities right?

With all the vaccant buildings offices all around Ventura Co. Where are these jobs?

DavidAtkins writes:

DATA, people. Stop arguing your ideological worldviews and look at some data once in a while. You'll see that:

1) The public sector is vastly UNDERhiring. We'd have 7.4% unemployment nationally if the public sector were hiring at a normal pace. See here: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...

2) We have record income disparities in this country that only get worse every year. Americans don't even realize nearly how bad it is. You can see all the charts here: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/....

If the rich keep getting richer, the public sector keeps shriveling, and the poor keep getting poorer, we won't have a society left worth living in. I'm a small business owner, and I can tell you that I'm undaunted by the prospect of higher taxes. I welcome them. What worries me is that regular people don't have the money to feel comfortable enough to spend. That's what the economy depends on. The only sector that's booming is luxury goods, which sucks if you don't happen to work for Tiffany, Chanel or Neiman Marcus.

JohnInSimi writes:

in response to DavidAtkins:

DATA, people. Stop arguing your ideological worldviews and look at some data once in a while. You'll see that:

1) The public sector is vastly UNDERhiring. We'd have 7.4% unemployment nationally if the public sector were hiring at a normal pace. See here: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...

2) We have record income disparities in this country that only get worse every year. Americans don't even realize nearly how bad it is. You can see all the charts here: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/....

If the rich keep getting richer, the public sector keeps shriveling, and the poor keep getting poorer, we won't have a society left worth living in. I'm a small business owner, and I can tell you that I'm undaunted by the prospect of higher taxes. I welcome them. What worries me is that regular people don't have the money to feel comfortable enough to spend. That's what the economy depends on. The only sector that's booming is luxury goods, which sucks if you don't happen to work for Tiffany, Chanel or Neiman Marcus.

Okay David Atkins, why don't you in support of HIGHER TAXES VOLUNTARILY pay a higher rate of tax when you do your taxes???? Why aren't you doing your part?

ceeyh805 writes:

in response to DavidAtkins:

DATA, people. Stop arguing your ideological worldviews and look at some data once in a while. You'll see that:

1) The public sector is vastly UNDERhiring. We'd have 7.4% unemployment nationally if the public sector were hiring at a normal pace. See here: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/0...

2) We have record income disparities in this country that only get worse every year. Americans don't even realize nearly how bad it is. You can see all the charts here: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/....

If the rich keep getting richer, the public sector keeps shriveling, and the poor keep getting poorer, we won't have a society left worth living in. I'm a small business owner, and I can tell you that I'm undaunted by the prospect of higher taxes. I welcome them. What worries me is that regular people don't have the money to feel comfortable enough to spend. That's what the economy depends on. The only sector that's booming is luxury goods, which sucks if you don't happen to work for Tiffany, Chanel or Neiman Marcus.

With communists in charge the USSR (the UNION - of soviet socalist republics) had no unemplyment and 100% government employment just as in China.

Thirty years later the USSR has collaped while China and the Russian federation have both embraced capitolism. Unemployment increased in both countries as governments backed out of the employment market. Ushering explosive economic growth, replacing the government run Peasant Society's with sucessful people creating productive free market jobs....Now envious people like you on the Left seem to want to take us backward...why?

letuschangeCA writes:

The sad thing is this means a lot of us are paying more in State taxes the millionairs in 47 of the other States.

VintageRacer writes:

in response to IsthisAmerica:

Maybe if you are a Doctor? When I moved here back in the late 80's I took a pay cut. I worked in the Medical Field. Where are these jobs and who is working them?

It must Police and Fire Workers because everyone I know does not make over 30,000. a year?

Maybe if you live in Santa Barbara hey star free do you have your cities right?

With all the vaccant buildings offices all around Ventura Co. Where are these jobs?

"It must Police and Fire Workers because everyone I know does not make over 30,000. a year?"

Professional people with degrees, public and private, make a lot more than $30K a year. And they're not police and fire workers.

VintageRacer writes:

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Your numbers are bogus. Average Federal pay is $81,258 ($123,049 with benefits).

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy...

rebel123 writes:

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Are you saying that the average pay of federal public employees is $130K a year? I would very much like to see your source cited for that figure. The top tier may be in that range but there are a great many not making anywhere near that amount. I would suggest that is a very high figure. Please show your source.

VintageRacer writes:

Also, there are 2 million Federal workers, not the 3.5 million you claim.

Lets_Be_Truthful writes:

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How about FDR? How about Obama? Both home schooled. :)

JohnInSimi writes:

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Fascinating Tom, so would you say that homeschooling and by fiat, parenting should come under the aegis of the state? Maybe they would have to be audited on a regular basis so that the quality of education meets the standards of the state? Wouldn't you think that parenting fall under that umbrella as well? How far would you go to make sure children are not "brain-washed" by their parents? Just curious.

PROUDFATHER writes:

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Where's the proof the avg fed makes $130,000?

Even at Mugu the average is nowhere near 130,000.

Retirement of $100,000, where's the proof.

BTW, the feds coverted to a blended 401k/pension retirement years ago. Now most of the retirement is from workers contribution to their 401k account.

Mugu was never BRACd out, parts of it were relocated. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Why don't you apply to PH/Mugu, we're hiring. We are always looking for skilled people with experience.

Lets_Be_Truthful writes:

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I know of a few. In some cases you are right but I would not paint them all with a broad brush stroke.

VintageRacer writes:

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You have NEVER posted a link to support anything you have posted. I posted a link that showed what they are paid on the average, their average benefit values, AND the number of Federal employees. Until you can post something that contradicts my info, your information is simply hearsay.

And people have pointed out to you over and over, NBVC did NOT defy an order to close. If you don't believe it, research it!!!

I'm a retired engineering manager from a private company. Not retired military or public employee

VintageRacer writes:

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I went to your reference source (Government Executive) and found this for 2011:

"USA Today also found that federal workers made an average of $75,296 last year, plus $28,323 in medical, pension and other benefits. That figure is about 60 percent more than the average private sector wage, though many experts argue that the difference is a result of higher levels of education and professional jobs in the federal workforce. "

http://www.govexec.com/technology/wir...

Again and again, you post incorrect data and without links to support your claims.

VintageRacer writes:

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From YOUR link

"Senator-elect Rand Paul of Kentucky, for example, said recently: “The average federal employee makes $120,000 a year. The average private employee makes $60,000 a year.""

But you failed to read this

"The analysis is based on data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis and crudely done by dividing total compensation (salary and benefits) by the number of current federal civilian employees. Comparing such averages is quite misleading, for two reasons:

First, BEA says the figure is inflated by including compensation that is actually paid to benefit retirees, not just for current workers. The figure is at least several thousand dollars too high, by our calculations.

Second, the average federal civilian worker is better educated, more experienced and more likely to have management or professional responsibilities than the average private worker."

Did you read it" The $120K INCLUDES BENEFITS!!!!

My link said the same thing but also separated pay from BENEFITS!!

VintageRacer writes:

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"...in addition to the outrageous % of pay raises given each year."

Evidently you did not read the link I posted. If you had, you would have read this:

"A recent analysis by USA Today found that federal pay rose an average of 1.3 percent for fiscal 2011, according to newly released federal data. The wages of private sector workers rose 1.2 percent during that period, the same rate as state and local government pay growth, the analysis found. "

Again, you are not truthful

VintageRacer writes:

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Please post a link that supports this assertion.

rebel123 writes:

in response to whereyoufromdude:

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According to factcheck.org, your figure is incorrect. The figure you site includes all compensation, which includes health insurance as well as pre-funded pensions. Additionally they point out that positions held by federal workers are mostly white collar positions and that few low end positions are available, thus making the average salary higher. The actual wages with all benefits subtracted average out in the $75K range.

VintageRacer writes:

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Does your company offer health and dental to you? Do you get sick leave and vacation? Do you get a matching 401K plan?

When you graduated high school, you had every opportunity to get a college degree and get a high paying professional job. You didn't. You chose another path and now hate those that did.

No matter what we all post and point out where you are incorrect, you chose not to accept it. Your choice (like your career).

BTW - we are all "real" taxpayers. My wife and I paid nearly $40K in State and Federal taxes for 2011. Both of us are now retired. But we're both college educated and were professionals in our careers.

VintageRacer writes:

"...my irrefutal futes"?

Please define this as I have never heard this term before

VintageRacer writes:

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"I can not find a job out here in the real world that pays any of the benefits you asked me about - only those in government get such a lucky break."

Untrue. I worked in the private sector 44 years, 28 for the last one, and I received medical, dental, vacation and sick leave. These benefits are not isolated to Government jobs.

I'm now retired on a very nice private company pension. So is my wife

carthomas7 writes:

I cannot believe many of the comments Baxter used to offer Retirement NOT any more Amgen also gives 401ks and during high roller times that was fine.
I read and cannot give exact numbers but the facts are that about 10 yrs ago only about 200
boorowcrats made over 200K yr But now that number is OVER
well here is a quote
An analysis by USA Today revealed particularly fast wage growth at the top end of the federal workforce in recent years.6 By 2009, there were 383,000 federal civilian workers with salaries of more than $100,000, 66,000 with salaries of more than $150,000, and 22,000 with salaries of more than $170,000. Between late 2007 and mid-2009, the number of federal workers earning more than $150,000 more than doubled, even as the economy fell into a deep recession during that period.

VintageRacer writes:

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What is a "fute"?

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